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Tuesday, March 18, 2008

Why You Shouldn't Slow-Play

By Daniel Skolovy

 (63 votes)
At the table
If your goal is to get the most money in the pot, slow-playing is counterproductive.
The object of poker is to win the most money. That's it - that is your goal. That's why you're playing poker and not pogs.

In other words, all the strategies you employ are just a means to one end: the money. In light of that, one of the mistakes I see the majority of newcomers make is slow-playing. Or slow-playing too much.

Slow-playing, for the most part, is counterproductive. If your goal is to get the most money in the pot, how are you going to do that by checking? You build pots by betting your big hands, not by lurking in the weeds with them.

Here's an example of your average slow play:

Effective stacks $200; blinds $1/$2. You're dealt 6h-6c on the button. A player from early position raises $6 and you make the call.

The flop comes out 3c-6s-Ac. Your opponent bets $10. You call. The turn is the Td.

Your opponent bets $18 and you just call. The river is the 7d. Your opponent checks and you bet $35. Your opponent calls. You table your set of sixes and he mucks his As-Kc. You scoop a $138 pot.

OK, so you won a $138 pot. You might be patting yourself on the back saying "Nice hand." This is not a nice hand.


Seriously, you won a $138 pot. Don't pat yourself on the back.

When you flop a big hand like a set, you want to play for stacks. This is what you've been waiting for, folding 6-2 and 5-9 all day. So now that you've finally hit your monster, you want to waste it by trying to slow-play? That kind of strategy is just wrong-headed.

Big Hands Want Big Pots

When you flop a monster you want to win your opponent's stack. It's very difficult to win someone's stack by slow-playing.

Why? When you slow-play you often find yourself with a small pot. Your goal of getting your stack into the middle when the pot is small becomes very difficult. You can't exactly bet $200 into a $4 pot, can you?

If you build the pot the entire way, it will be big enough on the end that you can comfortably bet your entire stack.

The hand in the example was played well by our villain. He played it like most villains would in this spot. He bet two streets into you and when you called multiple times he went for the conservative river approach. He checked and then called a river bet.

He did this to avoid getting raised (which is what you would have done). In this situation it's very difficult to get paid off after having just called two streets. If you had raised the flop then he most likely would have had to call with his top pair, top kicker, thus building the pot further.


Always consider table dynamics, image, playing tendencies, etc. before you decide how to act.

Let's look at an example where there is no slow-playing:

Effective stacks $200; blinds $1/$2. You're dealt 6d-6c in the cut-off. The player from early position makes it $6 to go. Everyone folds to you; you make the call.

The button and blinds fold and you take a flop heads-up of 3c-6s-Ac. Your opponent bets $10. Opting against the slow play, you raise the flop to $45. Your opponent calls.

The turn brings the Td. Your opponent checks. There is now $102 in the pot and just under $150 left in your stack. You bet $70.

Your opponent tanks and calls. The river comes down 7d. Your opponent checks and you bet your remaining $80. Your opponent calls and tables As-Kc. Your set of sixes takes the $400 pot.

By building the pot the entire way it made it easy to get your entire stack into play. When the pot is large it also gives your opponent incorrect odds. He may have felt on the river he was pot-committed since he had already put 60% of his stack into play and the pot is offering 4-1 on his call, making it extremely difficult to fold.

Still, There Must Be Times When Slow-Playing Is Correct

Yes, you're right. In poker, one strategy is never always correct. You always need to take into consideration the table dynamics, your image, your opponents' playing tendencies, etc. before you decide how to act.

I'm not advocating never slow-playing. I'm just encouraging you to use it sparingly.

One situation where slow-playing is correct is against an ultra-aggressive player whom you know to have a history of betting three streets strong with weak holdings and who will continue their aggression until they are played back at. In that case it is not terrible to slow-play.

As an example:

You're playing an extremely aggressive opponent. You have seen him bet three streets with as little as ace-high.

Effective stacks $200; blinds $1/$2. You're dealt Tc-Th in the small blind. The ultra-aggressor raises to $8 UTG and it's folded to you. You elect to just call. The flop comes down Ts-2c-5d.


Another good time to consider "slow" playing: When you're about to marry Tommy Lee's ex-wife.

You check and your opponent bets $20. You just call. The turn comes 5s. You check and your opponent bets $65. You call.

The river comes As. You bet $100 and your opponent calls with Ac-4s. You pick up the pot with your full house.

In this situation you know your opponent is ultra-aggressive. You know he's going to be betting with practically anything. He will build the pot for you. So there is no need to raise and make him fold his weak hand.

This situation isn't a common one, so you have to be in tune with the table dynamics. You'll need to be certain this opponent is willing to keep betting. Also notice in the example that the hero bet the river.

It's very risky to go for a check-raise when our hand is this strong. If the river goes check-check we could lose a lot of value.

So there you have it. You don't have to stop slow-playing all together. However, if you are making a habit out of slow-playing all your big hands than you are probably losing out on a ton of value!

Again, if you have any questions or comments, leave them at the bottom of the page.

More strategy articles by Dan Skolovy:

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Comment(s) on this article

Sean Lind Sep 16, 2008

Thanks battman630, somewhere in the process of writing, editing or posting articles to the site things like this can go awry.

The first example has been fixed, no more duplicate cards.

battman630 Sep 13, 2008

how come there is two 6 of spaids in the deck on the first example? the examples are more relevant when they are accurate!

Xay Sep 12, 2008

I agree with many of your articles but not sure about this one. If he really have AK then you might be right but what if he only have AT? He'll fold if you raise him by $45. I would slow play to keep him in the game too.

Angel Jun 17, 2008

Folding TPTK on this flop is lame even for 9max, don't talk about 6 max ... :D it's like the ultimate donk play. Imagine you are the UTG raiser 6 max - with AKo, BTN calls (wide range - any sc 45+, A5s+,QJs+,KJs+ 22+). Anyway, its fucking standart play to lose to set vs TPTK on such flop (2 cards to Flush)where oppo is having wide range). and its +EV. When btn raises me, its auto all in, giving wrong odds to the oppo to suck out on us.
Folding or checking turn to oppo on flush draw board with TPTK is what a fishes like roger do. And that's why it's so easy to semi-bluff a tight-weak donkey in position, giving you freecard on the turn. That's why you have to always (if you are PF raiser) protect your hand on wet boards. The article is well written and it's explaned when you can slow play and when not. Read it again and read the Big hands for big pots Small for small or w/e (one of the other articles written by Skolovy) and you might stop thinking like a donk. Cheers and hf with learning : ).

p.s. everyone was a donkey, so don't take it too seriously, try to get better.

Joe May 11, 2008

I agree with the above people...this whole "dont slowplay" strategy depends on your opponent having a big hand which they think will win the pot..and not just a marginal one like they are going to pick up 90% of the time. Many times if you don't slowplay in this situation your opponent will just decide its not worth the risk and you will get almost nothing out of them.

Kristoffer Apr 18, 2008

i don't know about this one too. I don't consider slow-playing counter productive. It is a strategy in poker that should be practiced reasonably. Poker is not a science; every situation is different

Dave Apr 17, 2008

Roger,

Sure, sometimes they will fold (were probably bluffing or play too tight). In any case, the advice is NOT to slow play, not to bet your opponent out of the pot. $45 is a 35$ raise (into a pot around $32?), and depending on his hand, your opponent has reasonable pot odds. But perhaps he assumes you will bet the turn, so his implied odds are worse. Next time, you know this opponent may be tight and you'd raise him only to $40.

Roger Apr 9, 2008

Your opponent bets 10$. I raise to 45$. Villain folds. Hero takes pot of 25$. What about this line?

Amir Apr 7, 2008

I don't know about this one, if somebody bets big off of a weak flop I'm probably going to assume they hit a set! I certainly wouldn' t continue to keep betting even if I did have AK.

Dubitzk Mar 27, 2008

Great scenerios great strategy.


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